Inspired by PISS ME OFF's recent letter and her own upcoming birthday, Grouchy Woman has decided to do a column or two about things she has learned the hard way. In honor of PISS ME OFF, she is starting with things she's learned over the course of never-you-mind-how-many years of dating. She's going to cheat a bit, if you don't mind, and include things she's learned by watching friends, male and female, learn stuff the hard way.
Don't waste your time on someone who isn't interested.
- If he/she indicates that he/she not interested, move on immediately and do not pursue it. Do not waste time pining after someone who isn't interested in you.
- If he/she stands you up without calling, he/she is not only not interested, he/she is also an inconsiderate shit. Do not give him/her another second of your time unless he/she was unconscious, in a coma, or trapped somewhere with no possibility of calling.
- If he or she cancels a date without a really good reason, even if he/she calls, he/she is not interested. Don't waste your time.
- If he/she is "busy" or cancels dates more than once, without making an affirmative suggestion for another plan to get together, he/she is not interested. Move on.
- If he/she wants to bring along a friend when you suggest a date, he/she is not romantically interested.
- Ladies, if you flirt with a guy and he doesn't make a move, he's not interested, even if he flirts back. Some guys could spend years flirting without actually being interested. If he's flirting, he's neither shy nor "intimidated," and he's aware of your interest. He's just not interested.
- Men, no matter how much she flirts, if she always has other plans when you ask her out, she's not interested. Some women could spend years flirting with you and still never go out with you. If she were interested, she'd find time in her busy schedule for you.
- If he/she doesn't call you back, he/she's not interested (or else she's a strict follower of "The Rules", in which case you don't want her).
- If you're doubting whether he or she is really interested, he or she is not interested.
If you want a relationship and not a fling, it's usually best to be a bit old-fashioned about the first date or two.
- As I noted above, ladies, if he were interested in you, he'd make a move. No move, no real interest. For that reason, in heterosexual relationships, if you're looking for a relationship rather than a fling, by and large it works better if the woman lets the man do the initial asking out/hitting on. Go ahead and shoot Grouchy Woman. Men say they like to be hit on; but Grouchy Woman's analysis demonstrates that men always seem to be much more interested in women they pursue than in women who pursue them. Twenty-first century Grouchy Woman's ass; our primitive brains are still stuck in the Paleolithic. If things go well, ask him out for the second date, but let him ask you out for the first date. (This rule does not apply if you are already friends and suddenly find yourselves snogging after a couple of cabernets, or if you are fine with a fling.)
- On the same note, ladies, (assuming you followed the rule above and let him ask) let him pay for the first date. You pay for the second (or maybe the third) date. Grouchy Woman used to be one of those chicks who always insisted on paying half the check on a first date, until she did a survey of her male friends, who without exception stated that they saw that as a sign a woman wasn't interested in them. Also, they said that if they were at all interested, they'd insist on paying. Perhaps it's the Paleolithic thing again. Insist on equality (financial and otherwise) in the relationship, not the first date. Grouchy Woman will make an exception if you are friends who merge into lovers -- you've no doubt been going dutch the whole time you've known each other and there's no reason that should change now.
- That said, ladies, if you asked him out, YOU pay. And yes, I mean the entire check, not just your share. The rule is, he/she who asks pays. You can't ask someone out and then expect them to pay for your dinner. Again, Grouchy Woman will make an exception for friends merging into lovers.
- Ladies, after the first date, whip out the wallet. If he really insists, you might let him pay for the second and maybe even the third date, but after that you should be carrying your weight. Grouchy Woman advocates the Paleolithic rule only at the very onset of a relationship. After that, haul your ass right back to the 21st century and carry your weight in the relationship. You don't have to get a calculator and split every check down the middle, but you should be reciprocating.
- Men, if you asked her out on that first date, pay for the entire check. Even if she offers to split the check. Feminist or not, I don't know any woman who won't appreciate that gesture. Feel free to take her up on any offers to split or take care of any checks on future dates. (My favorite response a guy gave me to my offer to split a check on a first date was "I'm getting the first three. After that, you can take me out.")
- Men, if you've had three dates, and on the fourth she has still never made a move for her wallet, press the dump button. She likes your wallet, not you, or else she's a worthless sponging princess. (Not necessarily true for the first couple of dates -- her male friends may be advising her the same way Grouchy Woman's did.)
- Men, if you are interested in her, ask her out. Don't wait around for her to make the first move. Most of us won't do it. And in any event, we like it when you do it. The worst thing that happens is that she says no.
- The first date need not be, and indeed, should not be, an all-out-expensive dinner. Keep it simple and low-key. (To be honest, if someone pulls out all too many stops on the very first date, I rather feel like he's trying to buy his way into my pants.) Coffee or drinks is totally fine. You can always extend the evening if it's going well. Or do dinner at a fun, low-key place (but not McDonalds, unless you are in high school).
- Don't sleep with him or her on the first date unless sex is all you want. Yes, Grouchy Woman knows that your good friend Rhonda slept with her husband Hank on the first date, but that's not generally what happens. Wait at least a date or two and get to know him or her. Grouchy Woman grants an exception to couples who are friends and merge into lovers.
If you're not interested, don't waste your time or his/hers.
- If you know you're not interested in a date, say no nicely, but say no. Don't keep making excuses and hoping he/she will get the hint.
- If you know you want to break up, break up already! You're hurting him/her much more by dragging it out, and you are wasting his/her time.
- If you're always wondering whether you should break up, you should. At the very least, you should be having a very frank talk.
- If there's someone else you'd rather be dating than your significant other, even if that person is unavailable -- hello, you are with the wrong person. Move on and find someone you are actually interested in.
- If you don't think he or she is fantastic, press the dump button.
- If you know that he/she is in love with you, and you're just fooling around, you have a moral obligation to be completely straight with him/her about your feelings and intentions. Frankly, Grouchy Woman thinks you have a moral obligation to break it off, but she'll cut you some slack if you're at least up-front with your feelings.
- If you feel this person or this relationship is beneath you, break up. For his sake even more than for yours. Stop wasting his time.
- If you are staying with someone solely because you think you can't find something better, break up and get some counseling.
- If you are staying with someone solely because you are afraid of being alone, break up and get some counseling.
- You're not going to find Mr./Ms. Right while you are dating Mr./Ms. Wrong.
- The "friend with benefits" thing only works if neither party wants more. Usually, someone does, at least after a while. If your "friend with benefits" wants to get serious with you, or vice versa, it's time to end it unless you both feel the same way. Otherwise, what you have is "friends with drama".
Break up cleanly and nicely.
- Break up cleanly. Don't keep changing your mind. Don't keep sleeping together. One of you inevitably cares more, and dragging out the agony just hurts that person more. And you probably need some time apart before you can be friends. The breaker-upper has a moral responsibility not to give false hope to the break-upee.
- You should not give someone detailed reasons why you are breaking up with someone, nor should you ask for detailed reasons from someone breaking up with you. "It's not working out", "It's not you, it's me", and "I'm just not ready for a serious relationship" are time-honored classics for a reason. It serves no purpose whatsoever to explain that you can't stand the way he picks his teeth and she doesn't do it for you in bed. It just hurts. Talk about flaws and problems only if you're trying to work on them and make the relationship work.
- If your ex does not want any contact with you, respect that (unless there are children involved and he or she is preventing you from seeing them, or there's some property issue with the divorce you need to settle). Don't keep pushing yourself and your friendship at him or her. Yes, I know you miss him, but a break-up is a break-up, a divorce is a divorce.
Don't waste your time on someone you can't trust.
- If you're not sure you can trust him/her, that's a warning sign in itself.
- If you find yourself snooping through his/her emails looking for signs you can't trust him/her, you're either a psycho or you don't trust him/her. Either way, it's break up time.
- If he/she cheats, press the dump button.
- If he/she lies about something big, press the dump button
- If he/she lies about something small, be extremely cautious. It's a red flag.
- If his/her behavior is mysterious and erratic, that is an extremely bad sign. If you are always wondering why he or she does certain things, press the dump button. (Ask about it first, if you want, but if you still don't get it, press that button. Mysterious and erratic is not good.)
- If his/her behavior is weird or rude or erratic or unreliable during the beginning of the relationship, if will only get worse as the relationship goes on. Much worse. Cut your losses and press the dump button now.
- If he/she already has a spouse or a significant other, and he/she's hitting on you, you can't trust him or her. Not ever. Stay the hell away. (Unless he/she has an open relationship, in which case you should be able to check that out with the spouse, huh? And if you do get involved with someone in an open relationship, make sure that all you really want is to fool around, because that's all he or she wants.) Don't be an idiot. If he is cheating on someone else with you, what makes you think he's going to break off the other relationship? And even if he did, what about his behavior leads you to think he wouldn't cheat on you with someone else?
- If you are only dating him or her, and he or she is dating other people or is married to someone else, or vice versa, your situation is by definition fucked up.
- Directly or indirectly, people will usually tell you what kind of person they are and what they're after, if you are smart enough to listen and pay attention to their behavior. Pay attention!
- If he/she tells you he's not ready for a serious relationship, he or she is telling you the truth, at least with regard to you. Grouchy Woman guarantees you will not change his or her mind. Don't waste your valuable time trying.
Don't waste your time on someone who doesn't trust you.
- If he/she wants you to drop all friends of the opposite sex (or all friends period), PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If he or she snoops through your emails, mail, desk, etc., PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If he or she is always making unfounded accusations that you are cheating, and you are not cheating, PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
Don't waste your time on someone who isn't a good person.
- If he or she hits you, PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If you are afraid of him or her in any way, PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If he or she belittles you or treats you rudely or condescendingly, PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If he or she stands you up or cheats on you, PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If you spend a significant amount of time being unhappy about the relationship, PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If he or she is rude to your family or your friends, that's a deal killer. PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW.
- If he or she is rude to wait-staff, taxi drivers, or the check-out clerk at the supermarket, PRESS THE DUMP BUTTON. NOW. That's a really good window into someone's true character.
- If a significant portion of your friends and family members do not like him or her, at least listen to them and take a good long look. They may be totally wrong. But if a lot of people who love you and want the best for you think someone sucks, you might be letting your genitals lead you down the primrose path.
- If you find yourself regularly complaining about his or her behavior to your friends and family, something is seriously wrong. Ditto if you are constantly fighting about stupid crap. Press the dump button before you drive yourself and everyone you know crazy.
- If he or she has no friends, that's a bad sign.
- If you find yourself constantly apologizing, that's a very bad sign.
- If he or she pressures you to do things you're not comfortable with, that's a very bad sign.
- If he or she is incapable of an apology, press the dump button.
Stay far away from the rebound zone.
- If he/she is always talking about his/her ex, he/she is not over the ex. Even if he/she is always criticizing or complaining about the ex. Back carefully away.
- If he/she is still in love with someone else, he/she will not change his/her mind and fall in love with you.
- If you are the first person he or she has dated since the previous relationship ended, it will almost certainly not work out, no matter how compatible you are.
- If he/she is separated, he/she is still married. Go in for a fling, if you want, but don't get your hopes up for anything more.
- Just because he/she has already had one rebound relationship, does not necessarily mean he or she is out of the rebound zone and ready for a relationship.
- If he/she is still living with the "ex", stay far, far away.
- If you are seriously interested in someone who is separated or just got out of a very serious relationship (especially the former), ask him or her this question: "If X called and wanted to try to work things out, what would you say?" You'd be surprised -- Grouchy Woman has found that people who don't suck usually answer this question honestly. If the answer indicates in any way that there might be some possibility under any circumstances that he/she would ever consider trying to work things out with the ex, run. Run now, run fast, unless all you want with this person is a fling.
Be straight up and honest about what you want and need -- with others and with yourself.
- If something isn't working for you, say so.
- If you want something, ask.
- If you're wondering, ask.
- If you're angry, speak up.
- If you're afraid to speak up for fear you'll lose him or her, that's a very, very bad sign.
- If you're afraid to speak up because you're afraid of his or her reaction, that's an incredibly bad sign.
- If you're just generally afraid to speak up, get some counseling. You can't have a meaningful relationship if you don't learn to speak up.
- If you screwed up, apologize. The sooner, the better.
- Don't try to pretend you want less than you do.
- Don't settle for less than you want.
Don't be afraid to be alone.
- It's less lonely to be alone than in a relationship you don't want or a dysfunctional relationship. And at the very least, you're free to find something better.